The most common questions of all are first
Who in behind this web site?
The owner of this web site has been a boat owner for many years, (though not at present due to a plethora of small children) and worked within the shared ownership industry in the past.
What can I expect if I join the mailing list?
In the main you will get e-mails advising you of shares as they come up for sale on the site. By being on the list you will be amongst the first to know, and may be able to steal a march on any other interested parties.
There is already a page on your web site on the "craft" page which I want you to use the detail from for my advert, can I? How do I ask you to do it?
OK. I am lazy.......very lazy. I figure that there are around 200 shared craft on the UK inland waterways and once I have advertised every single one once, and have pictures, details etc. my job gets much easier. In the real world this number is far fewer, there are probably about 150 boats where shares are regularly bought and sold on the site.
My job is MUCH easier if I can re-use the advert that I last wrote, so the standard procedure simply works you through the process, and asks you if you want to use the old advert and pictures.
You do not need to worry about copyright as I own it (by virtue of the person who first wrote it or last altered it passing it to me, just as you will for yours.)
Please note I make the alternations to the existing page for you,
you just fill out the forms
You cannot place an advert just be sending an e-mail, you MUST go via the forms.
Just work through the pages and all will be revealed.....start here
I want to advertise my share in my boat for sale, but somebody else on my boat wishes to sell and already has a advert on www.boatshare.co.uk . Can I add mine?
Yes, and as I deem photographs passed to me come with copyright to use them as I see fit I may use them on the second advert. However, should one advertiser sell their share the advert cannot then be "passed over" to somebody else selling on the same boat.
Two owners are selling at
the same time, can we put two shares for sale on the same advert?
NO, plain and simple, and you are asked not to abuse this. YOUR advert is for YOUR stake in the boat. Once sold the advert will be taken down. You CANNOT alter contact details and pre-booked weeks on an advert once it is placed.
I am not very good at writing "estate agent speak" so my advert may not look as good as some others...
Don't worry, as long as you have some nice pictures and can offer a few "facts" I can do the rest. Also, somebody else has probably don't it for you, look for a previous advert for your boat.
Is there a maximum I can write about our boat, and a maximum number of pictures I can have?
As long as you use a plain font there is no real maximum, but obviously something the size of a book will not be considered. The maximum number of pictures is ten on a paid advert. For as long as there is a share offered for sale on any boat these ten pictures will be determined by the vendor.
Somebody offered a share for sale on this page and has sold it, but the page is still there. Is that correct? Can I remove it?
The advertising part on the page will be removed after 12 months (or sooner if requested) but the page on the boat itself will remain in the directory, for information and possible future use. If an owner on the boat wishes it removed for any legal reasons then the page will be removed provided it is carrying no advertising. But basically it is a harmless template to be used for next time an owner wants to sell, if anything is factually incorrect then just let me know.
Our boat has its own web site, we would like to just have a link from www.boatshare.co.uk to it, is that possible.
Yes, a link is possible, just send us the details. If shares are offered for sale on that boats' own web site the link can still stay on free of charge but to become listed in the "shares for sale" section of the table the fee at the present "going rate" would still have to be paid.
Is there anything that might help my share stand out above all others?
The answer to this is think about why you bought it!? Equally think about why you are selling it!!?? Also think about what conditions, especially in a private group, might preclude a sale - there is no point in selling it to somebody only to find your group have an agreement that pet crocodiles are not allowed!! A few examples:-
Pet Free. Some people would see this as a major plus point, of course those with a dog would not, but equally you should state it as there is no point in selling your share to a dog owner if the other owners don't allow pets, you will be wasting their time and yours.
No Smoking. Actually, remarkably this makes little difference, but state it anyway. Boats tend not to smell of smoke inside after the doors have all been open for more that 30 mins and in this day and age nobody tends to smoke inside anyway.
Special arrangement for school holidays: If such a scheme operates on your boat say so, and say if your share on offer is with, or without, the arrangement.
How weeks are selected? State roughly the method used, lottery, fixed weeks or round robin system, and how many weeks you are guaranteed to get each year? If you know your dates for the forthcoming period state them. Once the dates are on the advert they cannot be materially altered, but you could add, say, weeks for the NEXT year if you learn them during the period of your advert.
Cost. State the price of the share (and if your commercial operator is also offering it for sale state the same price, but remember that you might not have to pay their commission) and state the sum you pay each year towards the running costs. If you are in a commercial scheme INCLUDE any management fee. Then, if you have quoted your weeks as well any potential owner can work out a cost/week price.
Anything else? Well do all the owners live in the south and so the boat is unlikely ever to be moored in the north? Is yours the first share to be sold out of this friendly syndicate in six years? Does any potential owner have to be vetted by the others? Is the boat only ever going to be moored at, say, the marina it is at now, or is there an agreement in place that it must be moved every, say, third, year?
Also mention any major work done on the boat or planned as this may help, equally does your group have a slush fund of money kept on one side "just in case" and would any incoming owner benefit from that or have to pay in to it over and above and costs presented at this stage.
Remember the more you tell the more sell and there is no limit on the amount of text your can put on the page (within realistic boundaries).
My commercial operator has a section showing my boat on their web site - can I have a link to it?
Yes if you want - but you will be doing yourself no favours....Why? The commercial operators web site is almost certain to be offering many more shares for sale just like yours.
But somebody looking at the site may well already know who the commercial operator is?
Think about it. When you bought your share you went to that boat and that commercial operator above a private scheme or any other commercial operator for a reason. "Sell" your enquirer those reasons when they ask about your share. Don't tell them, "Go speak to Titanic Timeshare about it", you are just advertising for them, and if they go on to sell your share for you they will charge a full commission. Why not agree to split any savings on brokerage with your customer, that way you both win.
I don't have any good pictures of my boat, but there are some on my commercial operators web site, can you just lift them?
No, either take some or ask a fellow owner to do so, somebody must have some. You can have an advert without pictures for the same fee if you wish, but it will not do as well.
This web site charges whereas there are others that will accept adverts like this for, it seems, free. Why?
There is a classified adverts board that allows you to advertise your share free of charge for up to 90 days, with a picture, provided you can host it. This is more or less what you get on other sites. However, this will not give your share any where near the prominence that a "paid for" advert will command.
Also this is the THE web site for shared ownership of boats within the UK and in NOT affiliated to anyone. We are not a boat broker or a mouth piece for any part of the boating industry.
Other web sites allow you a small section and one picture, we allow much much more. £50.00 for a whole year is not expensive by any means when you consider that a broker may well charge you upwards of 5% commission. Remember commercial operators prefer to sell more profitable shares in new boats and up until now there was no focal point for private syndicates.
Finally I have a mailing list of people who have been asked to be advised about shares coming on the market, included in your advert when you first place it is it's details being circulated around this list.
There always seems to be one or more shares for sale on our boat, can we have some sort of advert that runs in perpetuity.
No, after much thought it has been decided that this web site is best serving its customers if an advert is best placed by ONE PERSON for THEIR share/weeks, not a commercial type of advert offering blanket shares. That said new builds or persons taking a paid advert seeking to find like minded folk to form a group are exempt.
My commercial operator says I may not advertise my share for sale anywhere other than through them.
Challenger used to say you could only advertise through them, they have ceased trading and you should check with your present managing firm. If you are self managed then there is nothing to stop you advertising on here.
But if they operate a waiting list scheme can the operator not just sell a share that belongs to somebody else on the boat?
Again, Challenger used to work like this, check with your management company.
Does Boatshare take potential customers to view the boat?
No, we are just a web site, not a broker.
Can I sell a whole boat through this site.
How do I get my boat listed?
You should NOT use this page to place an advert for a share for sale
Web page FAQ's
There is a page about my boat on the site and I don't like it....
If you don't like it because it contains factually incorrect information then tell us and we will change it. Contact us.
If you wish to advertise on this site and there is not an obvious means to accommodate
your requirements please contact us.
However if you want a banner advert have a look at the banner advertising section.
There is no share that suits me, what should I do, can I place a share wanted advert?
First thing to do is join
the mailing list, you
never know a share that is perfect might arrive tomorrow!
You can also place an advert on the general board (link opens new window) under the "Boat share wanted" section.